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Русский:

Конфирмация 2008-09 начнётся 1 февраля.

Конфирмация 2008-09 - неплохая возможность убедиться, что мы по-прежнему довольны нашими стюардами. Чтобы процесс прошёл как можно более гладко, ознакомьтесь с тем, как он устроен.

В течение выборов стюардов'2009 упомяните здесь, если вы недовольны кем-то из нынешних стюардов, почему вы им недовольны. Например, можно упомянуть бездействие или неприятное поведение. Неактивные стюарды, согласно правилам, теряют свой статус.


По окончанию выборов, нынешние и вновь избранные стюарды рассмотрят жалобы, оставленные на этой странице, и смимут статусы в случае необходимости, принимая во внимание комментарии, оставленные сообществом, их собственную точку зрения и понимание сути работы стюарда. Все стюарды будут проходить сквозь этот процесс после каждых выборов.

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русский:
  • Языки: en
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about .anaconda[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Resigned.

Hello, I was thinking on resigning in the last days due to inactivity - this is the reason I ignored this page; just done. Thanks for expressing your opinion. --.anaconda 23:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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русский:
  • Языки: nl, de-3, en-4, fr-2, most other Germanic/Romanic languages-1
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about Andre Engels[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 01:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: en
  • Личная информация: Я являюсь стюардом с 2004 года и надеюсь продолжить приносить пользу в этом качестве. Я вхожу в Wikimedia:Advisory Board и помогаю в Викимании (жюри и программа). Я админ на Мете, в английской Википедии, а также в вики для консультаций и в вики Фонда. Я не была так активна, как планировала, в последний год, так как всё свободное время ушло на планирование свадьбы! После того, как она состоялась (в ноябре), я стала более активна в Викимедии в целом, и собираюсь продолжать в том же духе. Задачи стюардов, на которых я концентрируюсь, это пользовательские права и борьба с кросс-вики спамом (пример). Я рада выполнять прочую стюардскую работу, такую, как запросы о SUL и глобальные блокировки, но в последние несколько месяцев не было запросов, которые не выполнялись бы мгновенно новыми, сверхактивными стюардами! Я доступна на IRC-канале #wikimedia-stewards и со мной легко можно связаться через email, так как я онлайн 16 часов в день.

Comments about Angela[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed, no objections. —Pathoschild 01:56:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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русский:
  • Языки: fr, en
  • Личная информация: Я стал стюардом ещё на первых выборах. Кроме этого, я админ в fr.wiki, en.wiki, и commons, а также бюрократ в fr.wiki. Я один из основателей Wikimedia France и последний из доверенных (и председатель!) Фонда Викимедиа. В основном я редактирую fr.wiki, немного и иногда - commons и fr.books (хотя часто - не залогинившись). Я делаю довольно много на организационном уровне. Если быть честным, моя активность как стюарда в последний год была низка (эммм... очень низка), в первую очередь потому, что мне как доверенному просто было бы не очень хорошо использовать эти инструменты, а затем, я брал перерыв для психологической разгрузки. Но я был бы рад помочь больше в наступившем году. Я всегда доступен в irc для выполнения срочных запросов. Ваше здоровье!

Comments about Anthere[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, fr-3, es-2
  • Личная информация: Я был избран стюардом в 2006 году, и хотя я не так активен, как некоторые другие стюарды, в выполнении основных обязанностей, что связано с моей ролью координатора волонтеров Фонда Викимедиа, мне кажется, что как стюард я из себя что-то да представляю, так что я надеюсь, что мне и впредь доверят доступ к управляющим кнопкам. Спасибо.

Comments about Bastique[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, de-2, fr-1
  • Личная информация: Я был стюардом с декабря 2006 года. В этом году я поступил в аспирантуру, что сильно снизило мою активность. Но я продолжаю работать, регулярно читаю рассылку и слежу за новыми запросами (хотя, когда я их вижу, они уже почти всегда выполнены, некоторые стюарды очень хорошо работают :) ). Полагаю, я буду более активен в течение следующих нескольких месяцев и всегда буду доступен в случае острой необходимости.

Comments about Cspurrier[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, es-2
  • Личная информация: Я был номинирован и избран как один из первых стюардов в 2004 году. С середины 2004 по середину 2006 я занимал должность Wikimedia Chief Financial Officer и помогал с движняком 2007-2008 годов. Из-за этого большая часть моих действий как стюарда до конца 2007 года была связана со сбором пожертвований, но были и прочие действия. После этого я взял долгий - и очень нужный - викиотпуск. С тех пор я нерегулярно помогал комментировать запросы и устанавливать пользовательские права; нерегулярность была связана с неудобством из-за необходимости редактировать из-под учётной записи mav, а совершать стюардские действия под моим реальным именем Daniel Mayer. Я совсем недавно сменил имя моего стюардского аккаунта, объединив имя с моим аккаунтом для редактирования, чтобы облегчить переходы между вики. Если я пройду конфирмацию, я обещаю проявлять более высокую стюардскую активность.

Comments about Daniel Mayer (mav)[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: fr, en-3
  • Личная информация: Darkoneko, 27 лет от роду, бюрократ@frwiki. Иногда, раз или два за время выполнения работы стюарда, я делаю ошибки, но в целом, думаю, что выполняю работу корректно.

Comments about Darkoneko[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: tr, en-3, de-2, az-2, tk-1, uz-1
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about Dbl2010[edit]

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Comments about DerHexer[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: es, en-5
  • Личная информация: Статистика: я администратор в 6 или 7 вики, чекюзер в трёх, участвую в проектах Викимедиа 5 лет. Метапедисты знают, что моя работа в эти дни была направлена на борьбу с ботовандалами и тому подобным. Это моя вторая конфирмация, я здесь, чтобы получить отзывы о своей работе в качестве стюарда. Спасибо вам за ваши отклики.

Comments about Drini[edit]

And sir, oh please explain me the high moral ground on canvassing? [7] [8] [9] es:Drini 21:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ad hominem attacks only serve to highlight your lack of suitability for the position. These users have a unique knowledge of your actions. Would you expect me to open a Request for comment on your actions and link to it here? Exactly what would you say was the ideal way to let people know about abusive behavior and the forum to comment on it? Perhaps leave a messgage on every user´s page on all the projects? Notifying three people of this election without suggesting what they say is hardly canvassing. I believe my friendly notification falls under [[10]]. It was sent to three people(limited number) and neutrally worded. Please explain how this is a violation of WP:CANVASS or is this another mendacious twisting of something that you cannot not know is not canvassing. If you do not understand the policy on canvassing to correctly identify it, then I realy question on more grounds you ability to serve as a steward.Die4Dixie 22:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
None of this has anything to do with stewardship. Drini is probably one of the best stewards we've ever had. You're essentially saying you're opposing him continuing his good work because he blocked you. Canvassing to people to get them to attempt to come and sabotage this discussion in your favour hasn't helped you one bit either. Please consider your future actions more carefully. Thanks, Majorly talk 22:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)I'm not familiar with meta-wiki or non-English projects but I seriously doubt Die4Dixie's incident is going to overturn anybody's candidacy for anything - the other comments are universally in support. Thus, I suggest all parties keep some decorum here and not get into wiki-arguing. I think the handling of Die4Dixie's block on English Wikipedia was unfortunate (a block for reasons poorly stated and seemingly mistaken, possibly not as a neutral party, followed by being unavailable for a day). Also, even though as Majorly points out Stewardship is very different than adminship, because of the increased authority it should be even more important that one keep a calm head, not play favorites, not get into grudges or matches with individual editors, etc. It is normal that the target of a block will be upset and make accusations, reasonable ones and otherwise, and perhaps even speak out of turn. Turning the other cheek and dealing with that in a firm but dignified way so that the blocked party can, hopefully, cool down and rejoin the editing process is also part of the job of administering blocks. The strong protest against alleged canvassing seems defensive, and piling on. Having said all that, and with all due respect to D4D and his (in my opinion) reasonable upset, I don't see this as anything to disqualify a candidate. No lasting harm done on either side, so please let it go. Wikidemon 23:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Btw sometimes Drini you yourself are soft with canvassing, so we're all to blame anyway--Vituzzu 20:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: sr, en-4, de-1, hr-4, bs-4, mk-1
  • Личная информация: Что же, я являюсь стюардом уже год. Весьма активным, кстати. С тех пор, как я был избран, изменилось немногое. Моё прошлогоднее заявление показывает всё необходимое. Кроме того, что сказано там, я хочу сказать, что рад обслуживать сообщество в качестве стюарда и надеюсь на возможность продолжать вносить свой вклад в будущем.

Comments about Dungodung[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: nl, en-2, de-1, fr-1, la-1
  • Личная информация: В прошлом году я был всё больше занят другими задачами, связанными с Викимедиа (Викимания, Wikimedia Netherlands, Викиконференция Нидерландов), и, к сожалению, вся эта активность происходила за счёт стюардской работы. Частичным оправданием мне, впрочем, является то, что работы быстро и качественно осуществлялась существующей группой стюардов, так что когда я смотрел список задач, там всё время казалось, что мне и нечего делать. Следовательно, я не вижу большой проблемы из-за моей малой активности при конфирмации. С другой стороны, я надеюсь оставаться доступен на случай всяких неожиданностей, с возможностью помогать тогда, когда это надо.

Comments about Effeietsanders[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed, no objections. —Pathoschild 02:04:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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русский:
  • Языки: fr, en-3, de-0.5
  • Личная информация: Я стараюсь помочь и быть полезным как стюард везде, где я оказываюсь рядом; я буду счастлив служить сообществу Викимедиа. Больше обо мне можно узнать на моей странице.

Comments about guillom[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, de-2
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about Jimbo Wales[edit]

The following discussion is closed: By Jimbo's request, the Board requested the creation of a founder group for Jimbo. He has been switched to that group accordingly.


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русский:
  • Языки: no, nb, nn-3, en-3, da-2, sv-2, de-1, es-1, eo-1, eur-1
  • Личная информация: Я стал стюардом в начале 2006 года. Я не был так активен, как хотелось бы, в последний год, всвязи с тем, что всяко другие (новые) стюарды были эффективнее, а я был занят другими обязанностями (как в вики, так и вне её). Я собираюсь, однако, продолжить работать, и надеюсь увеличить свою активность по сравнению с последним временем.

Comments about Jon Harald Søby[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: zh-TW, zh-CN-3, en-3, fr-1, ja-0 (may read kanji), ko-0 (may read hanja)
  • Личная информация: Я стал стюардом в декабре 2007 года, получив широкую поддержку. Я администратор на Мете, на Коммонс (и бюрократ), многоязычной Викитеке, англоязычной Викитеке, китайской викитеке (также бюрократ), в англоязычной Википедии, китайской Википедии, английском Викисловаре, китайском Викисловаре (также бюрократ), англоязычном Викицитатнике (также чекюзер), китайском Викицитатнике (также бюрократ). Быть администратором 11 сайтов Викимедиа плюс невикимедийного Wikilivres:, включая работу бюрократа на четырёх сайтах Викимедии и чекюзера на одном сайте Викимедии, очень времязатратно, но я люблю помогать пользователям, кака могу, и я готов продолжать заниматься обслуживанием. Больше всего я активен в китайской Викитеке, но я также обычно посещаю и другие сайты, в которых у меня есть администраторский флаг, хотя бы раз в неделю. Здесь, на мете, моей обычной стюардской задачей является содействие реализации новых ботов, то я также просматриваю Steward requests/Checkuser.

Comments about Jusjih[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, de-1
  • Личная информация: Я стал стюардом после выборов в декабре 2007 года. Также я продолжил быть админом в en:wp, Commons, и на Мете (и сдал флаг в en:ws), бюрократ на Commons и Мете, чекюзер в en:wp, Commons и Мете, ревизор на Commons. Кроме того, я один из тех, кто даёт доступ к списку почтовой рассылки стюардов и чекюзеров. Я думаю, я был достаточно активен в выполнении разных стюардских задач, и планирую продолжать быть таковым. Жду ваших отзывов.

Comments about Lar[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: it, en-3, es-2, fr-2, de-1, pt-1
  • Личная информация: Бюрократ на meta.wiki, администратор в it.wiki и simple.wiki, я рад работать над уборкой в проектах Викимедиа. Иногда я помогаю с переводами и разгребанием OTRS. Я был одним из учредителей Викимедиа Италия.

Comments about M7[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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русский:
  • Языки: sr (hr, bs, sh), en-3, ru-2, cu-2, mk-2, sl-2, bg-2, be-1, uk-1, ry-1
  • Личная информация: В последние несколько месяцев я чуть сократил свою активность в качестве стюарда, так как занят некоторыми другими викимедийными обязанностями (NomCom, ChapCom, LangCom и ряд других организационных вопросов). Однако, когда у меня есть возможность, я онлайн на канале #wikimedia-stewards и готов реагировать на запросы. Обычно я стараюсь заниматься теми задачами, выполнение которых не очень хорошо налажено, такими, как дежурство в ночные смены (раннее утро в Европе и ночь в Америках). Я обязуюсь перед сообществом, что если будет хотя бы 30 голосов за то, чтобы снять с меня флаг стюарда, и это будет составлять 50%+1 голос, я сдам флаг.

Comments about Millosh[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: it, vec, en-2, fr-1, es-1
  • Личная информация: Я бюрократ здесь, на мете, а также на vec.wiki и it.wikt, член SWMT.

Comments about Nick1915[edit]

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  • Personal info: "assume good faith" could rather mean "trustworthy people who have after a time become less active can use their extra tools even when used very sparingly" it will lead to a greater evolutionary diversity in a group with certain rights. nobody of course "needs" such tools, i do not "need" such tools, except to now and then perform a freely chosen job or task. demotion (please remove this guy) rather may make people be a stranger, whereas in my philosophy extended-rights communities should always be kept growing on a healthy wiki; after all, at least here, we are *not* competing for lots of soil. oscar 12:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments about Oscar[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: it, en-3, ru-2, de-1, fr-1, es-1
  • Личная информация: Я бюрократ итальянской Википедий, член учредитель и бывший президент итальянского отделения Викимедий. В прошлом году, я не был очень деятельным, и как стюард и на "моей" Википедий. Пускаю обществу решение сохранить ли мои функции стюарда.

Comments about Paginazero[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Resigned.

Criticism acknowledged - I just resigned. --Paginazero - Ø 11:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Comments about Pathoschild[edit]

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русский:
  • Языки: en, es-3, la-2, it-2, ar-1
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about Rdsmith4[edit]

  • Fine for me, though could be a tad more active. Majorly talk 00:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Does good work, but I agree I'd like to see more of it.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 02:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Additionally, I'll note that the suggestion that transferring rights from one account to another is inappropriate is a tad silly, IMO. The point of stewards not changing rights (etc) on their home wiki is to prevent a conflict of interest. Since essentially nothing changed in this case, there can be no conflict of interest. If he had promoted someone to sysop who wasn't previously, we might have something worth talking about.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really active, but not inactive enough to remove, does a good job when around. Prodego talk 03:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • 150 right changes in 2 years is tad too low but is generally around all the time, has my trust :) ..confirm..--Cometstyles 03:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sage advice on IRC. Active enough. ++Lar: t/c 04:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Confirm. Good work. MBisanz talk 06:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Good work. − Elfix × talk (fr) 11:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Often helping via IRC, good work as steward, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 01:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep --Fabexplosive The archive man 10:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • cf. Birdy. Regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 12:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Coimeád - though quiet - Alison 19:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Endorse. Keep up the good work. - Mailer Diablo 04:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • In my opinion, this transfer was an inappropriate use of steward rights on your home wiki. John Vandenberg 07:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I disagree, how is it? Majorly talk 16:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    All promotions should be done on the local wiki. It's a minor point, but it's an important one that dates back to the beginning of stewardship. --MZMcBride 19:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    MZM: This was not a new promotion but a transfer of rights. I seem to remember I decided to do both rights changes at Meta so as to keep them in the same log, hoping that this would minimize confusion and not give the impression that it was an unwarranted new promotion. I figured this consideration was more important than the convention that all promotions must be done locally. It seems to me that the relevant principle here is that stewards shouldn't grant sysop flags on wikis that have local bureaucrats; but I'm also a bureaucrat at en.wiki, so that problem is neutralized.
    But I think John was suggesting that I shouldn't be changing rights on en.wiki from Meta at all, since that's my home project. To this I can only respond that (1) I was executing a request made by the user, and not making any decisions of my own, so there is no possibility of conflicting interests; and (2) my actions caused no controversy nor provoked any objections whatsoever, precisely because I was doing no more than executing a request. I have argued for quite a while that the old prohibition on stewards changing rights on their home wikis is unnecessary in cases that involve no active decision-making. In fact, this is why we agreed a while back to change the relevant section of the policy to read "... except for clearcut cases (such as self-requested removal or emergencies)". — Dan | talk 23:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with this and further will say that I've done the very same thing. I don't think clear cut, non controversial items like this are problematic... a shift is not a promotion. ++Lar: t/c 03:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Where could I go about attempting to change the policy that says admins can uncontroversially have their adminship transferred to a new account without any sort of on wiki record or process for this? I'm frustrated by secret adminship transfers (there are a handful of en.wiki admins who can't be traced to an RFA at all) and would like to at least express my opinion against this anti-transparent practice. --JayHenry 04:31, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Either individual wikis (every "completely untraceable" one on en:wp that I am aware of (because the transfer didn't happen as a matched pair here) was done with awareness of en:wp ArbCom) to address it wiki by wiki, or perhaps the talk page for Steward policies, here. There is no way to escape an onwiki record (without developer intervention) in the case of a rights transfer... you'll always find record of the removal half it in the user rights log here. (But I think you mean something a bit more formal/direct/explicit than just a log entry) Further, doing both halves of the transfer here (turn off and turn on) means it's a bit easier to track, at least in my view, than if one half is done here (the turn off) and the other half elsewhere, because you can see what was done and it's paired. You have to know to come here to find it, of course. ++Lar: t/c 13:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    I meant an on en.wiki record, and I'm certainly not sure where Arbcom derived the authority to grant secret adminship transfers. (I became aware of this secret transfer issue when I noticed a complete spookadmin engaging in behavior I felt was harassment of someone I was trying to work with. Where can an editor like myself even begin to set that straight? Certainly not with ArbCom 2007-08 which felt entitled to create spookadmins in the first place.) But my point is actually a bit broader. It seems to me there are only two scenarios, either 1) if an admin asks a Steward to transfer their admin rights to some other account, this is permitted without condition (and I see no evidence this has ever been any sort of supported ideal) or 2) Dan did make a decision of his own. --JayHenry 04:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Dan is correct in assuming I am mostly concerned about this action being done by a steward on their home wiki. This was not a clearcut case as it isnt supported by enwiki policy or common practise. The request should have been posted onto meta, with explanation and justification, and evaluated by another steward who is not active in enwiki. At least then there would be an opportunity for community discussion, and an unbiased decision maker. You did "decide" that the request was appropriate and did not need any community discussion. John Vandenberg 08:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Eh? Bish is hardly the first person to deal with bit transfers. Ocee and H both dealt with similar things. --MZMcBride 18:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I am certainly aware of the problem of transparency; in fact, I asked the user in question to announce the change openly on her userpage (which she did, though the page is now deleted; for what it's worth, the revision is [23]). Had she not wished to do so, I would not have granted the request. I further informed her that if there were any objections I would reverse the change. I took my action to be validated by the fact that no objections ever came to my attention (until this moment of course). And when secrecy is not an issue, a transfer of rights seems to me just the kind of mere formality that stewards are accustomed to handle.
If it turns out that an agreement now emerges that this sort of thing should not be done, then we will know for sure not to do it in the future, and I will naturally abide by that decision. But at the time I did the transfer, and apparently for eleven months afterward, it seems not to have been understood as problematic in any way. And if it can be argued that on some understanding what I did amounted to a "judgment" or a "decision", then it was no more than the minimal amount of judgment or decision that is involved in any steward action -- if a steward really were to make no decisions at all, he or she would do exactly nothing. With respect, I believe that my actions were appropriate to the state of opinion at the time, and I hope they will not be held against me if and when the state of opinion begins to change. — Dan | talk 19:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's well said and I don't think at all that you should be removed as a Steward. But going forward I'd like to discourage the practice of blithely shifting adminship from one account to another. It is not silly; the shifting is confusing (not to mention frustrating and even unfair to all the outsiders), makes it difficult to find the RFA, a deleted user page is a pretty tough barrier to get past for an ordinary editor, it breaks the log of admin actions in half, not to mention the actual editing contributions, etc. Another point, Dan, is that while I'm hardly a noob I was unable to figure out who gave Bishzilla adminship rights. I don't know how to navigate around the logs that well. Personally I like Bish, and my concern has nothing to do with her. It's that what happened was completely opaque. --JayHenry 05:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: pt, en-4, es-3, fr-3, it-3, de-2, la-2, cs-1, ro-1, da-0, nl-0
  • Личная информация: Как очевидно из логов, недавно у меня был длительный перерыв в активности из-за непомерной занятости в обычной жизни. Это коснулось не только обязанностей стюарда. Я отсутствовал во всех проектах, включая мой собственный вики-проект и все остальные, где я появляюсь более-менее регулярно. В декабре я начал возвращаться к работе. Хочу воспользоваться возможностью и извиниться перед сообществом за своё отсутствие, так же как я извинился перед сообществом в своём вики-проекте. Разумеется, сообщество вправе ожидать, что я буду использовать доверенные мне инструменты когда бы они ни потребовались, и именно это я и собираюсь делать в дальнейшем. При нормальном уровне занятости, я обычно гораздо более активен в отношении прав участников и оверсайта.

Comments about Redux[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: en, fr-2
  • Личная информация: Я не являюсь одним из самых активных стюардов (я вечно занята в школе), но я всегда доступна на #wikimedia-stewardsсоединиться, помогаю участникам и отвечаю на срочные запросы and I work on the occasional miscellaneous task (like the transition of wiki-is-locked messages to local site notices, after locking was changed to a permissions-based method). Мне хотелось бы продолжить заниматься этим. Посмотреть прочий мой вклад можно на моей странице.

Comments about Shanel[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

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Comments about Shizhao[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Removed during the elections. —Pathoschild 02:18:20, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
  • I would like to note that should Shizhao wish to resume his steward role after his term of ombudsman is up, he should need only go through the reconfirmation process, and not an entire election. bastique demandez! 20:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Bastique, the reconfirmation should be done now, not in one year, when nobody remembers him anymore. @Shizhao, sorry, but I think you are too much involved into steward activity like checkusering on zhwiki, which is your home wiki. Additionally, you were not available on IRC during the last year, at least not that I knew of. --Thogo (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with Thogo, I don't think it should be tolerated that a steward does checks on his home wiki, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 02:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Spacebirdy, As your probably know, the matter has been addressed on the appropriate Requests for comments/Shizhao's use of steward privilages page. Chinese wikipedia is a large wikipedia with plenty of vandals and trolls but at the same time it suffers from not being able to elect any checkuser, for the unique political situation in the Chinese speaking world. Please bear that in mind, Thogo and Spacebirdy - Shizhao was simply doing his duty; since, apart from Shizhao and Jusjih, no other steward has sufficient knowledge of Chinese; and however capable you are, as I have seen, you simply cannot provide support as efficiently as Shizhao did. Shizhao is aware of the checkuser policy; but in certain cases, the community waited for over a week for urgent CU-requests. Hillgentleman 10:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • No, the community did not have to wait for urgent cases this year. They did simply not put it on the requestpage if that was so. Also besides the requestpage there is #wikimedia-stewardsсоединиться for urgent requests where always many stewards are available, also those who do not watch the requestpages so closely, but are eager to help, and he knows of that channel and Shizaho could have easily passed it on to a steward of his trust and assisted with understanding the request in translating. The rfc does not interest me, I waited for the confirmation where I can put my objection, because this is the place to do that. I am sorry, but I don't think that this should have happened, exactly for the reason why there are no local checkusers on zh.wiki. And that he understands the local language and others not does not count, there are many other languages no steward speaks, but the others managed to ask someone to translate an edit for them etc... Best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 12:24, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Actually, few Chinese wikipedians use irc. Surprised? They use skype or emails much more. And I appreciate that you at least acknowlege there exists a prior discussion. It is rather hasty to say "he understands the local language and others not does not count"; You need to know the language to understand the problem efficiently. As you know, the log goes stale in 7 days; and I have seen precious time wasted when the Wikipedians tried to explain to the stewards their problems with their good intentions but no-so-good command in English. Chinese wikipedia is maintained by a relatively small number of wikipedians but it invites a large number of vandals, some quite serious. And they are not helped by anti-vandal bots. An For the rest, I have said enough before. Hillgentleman 12:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • I did not say that Chinese Wikipedians should use IRC, but Shizaho can, or he could have used the mailinglist and asked anyone for using skype... But he did not, he checked himself and I object to that. It is not even clear why all these accounts were checked, no reason were given. Also it is not hasty to say that, we have to do checks in other languages as well, as said. And we ask for translations of edits then, or a trusted sysop for the problems and situation. There is this rule not to do that in Your home project, either we stick to the rules or You can propose to change that. You can have another opinion and express it and I respect that, but You will have to respect my opinion too, thanks, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 12:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • No problems; I understand Your point, and I agree with Your principles. I just wanted to bring out the fact that the case is not as simply black-and-white as a casual reader may think. Hillgentleman 17:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • As I stated in the RFC, performing CU requests on one's home wiki is to be avoided and I expect that will be in the future. I'm somewhat alarmed to see Spacebirdy say that there were no reasons given for running the check - I thought the requests that were being done were at least listed on SRCU and had valid reasons, as Wing stated. That Shizhao is now on the Ombudsman Commission is a bit uncomfortable at present... I'd appreciate some clarity from anyone who can provide it.  — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 18:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support Support. We both as only Chinese stewards administer many Chinese wikis very well. We cannot find at least two Chinese Wikipedians interested in checking users locally.--Jusjih 22:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Keep No reason why ombudsman wouldn't keep stewardship. --Millosh 13:30, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • remove per Thogo. --FiliP × 17:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

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English:
  • Languages: en, de-2, es-2, fr-2
  • Personal info: statement here

Comments about Sj[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: de, es-3, en-2, is-2, fr-2
  • Личная информация: Я делаю следующее: обрабатываю все запросы на страницах запросов на Мете [24] ([25], [26], [27], [28]), участвую в работе SWMT [29], помогаю на международном уровне, в основном относительно к описанному на страницах часто задаваемых вопросов, справки и страницах к посредничеству [30]

Comments about Spacebirdy[edit]

The following discussion is closed: Confirmed. Nihil Obstat Effeietsanders 02:03, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Final statement[edit]

Kind thanks to everyone who participated and especially for the comments and the support, herzlichen Dank, muchas gracias, kærar þakkir, merci beaucoup, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 02:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: de, en-3, es-1, fr-1, ru-1, la-1, ar-1, ne-1
  • Личная информация: Я пытаюсь помочь там, где это возможно (и до тех пор, пока мое расписание позволяет мне это).

Comments about Thogo[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: nl, en-3, fr-1
  • Личная информация: Привет. Я думаю, что всё, что я хочу сказать - что я по-прежнему заинтересован в выполнении работы стюарда. Я не претендую на высокую активность как стюард, но я всё же активен, и даже больше, чем это кажется на первый взгляд на логи. Если у вас есть вопросы или замечания, пожалуйста, говорите их. С уважением --Walter 10:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments about Walter[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: pl, en-4, de-2
  • Личная информация: Я стараюсь быть поблизости, чтобы помогать в "критических" ситуациях. Возможно, я не всегда реагирую на страницу запросов, но я всегда доступен в IRC, и потому могу реагировать "прицельно".

Comments about Wpedzich[edit]

A lesson to be learnt for sure - I had a feeling the name changes were being waited on long enough, and the local bureaucrats, although existent, were hard to reach in my opinion, therefore my decision. As I said, a lesson for me. Thanks for the criticism. Wojciech Pędzich Talk 10:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

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English:
  • Languages: fr, en-3, hi-2, gu-1
  • Personal info: I am steward since 2005, and admin on several projects. I am also check user on Commons. I am a founding member of Wikimedia France. I am still interested by stewardship. Even if I am not very active, I am always available via IRC to answer to urgent requests.

Comments about Yann[edit]

logs: rights, globalauth, gblblock, gblrights, crosswiki | translate: translation help, statement

русский:
  • Языки: cs, en-3, pl-3, sk-2, eo-2, ru-1, de-1
  • Личная информация: (здесь должно быть заявление)

Comments about Zirland[edit]