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Request for verification of Sylheti Wikivoyage[edit]

Dear Language Committee members, requesting verification of Incubator:Wy/syl (Sylheti Wikivoyage). There is a common misunderstanding among those unfamiliar with the process who mistakenly believe that this project is not open for contributions. It is one of the most active Wikivoyage project of the Wikimedia Incubator, currently featured on the main page. Requesting verification and we hope soon we will see the project on its own domain (https://syl.wikivoyage.org) based on its own merit.--ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 04:24, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Could you explain who is of the mistaken belief "that this project is not open for contributions"? --MF-W 09:44, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In Wikimedia, there are many users who are not familiar with the Incubator. A few months ago, one of our community members asked where to start a new Wiki project in a different project. The process is not very smooth. In the Sylheti Wikivoyage's history, we have many registered users but not many unregistered users. Generally, if the verification step is unnecessary and Langcom members are reluctant to perform it, I propose its removal from the proposal template. If it remains, it's better to clarify it so that users unfamiliar with Wikimedia Incubator, LPP, and new language projects do not become confused. —ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 02:30, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bump to prevent archival. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 20:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approval Request for Mooré Wikipedia[edit]

Hello,

I wish to follow up on the approval request for Mooré Wikipedia, which was submitted on July 12, 2023. Here is the request page:Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mooré. Please let me know if you have questions. Shahadusadik (talk) 12:56, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Shahadusadik, I believe it will be approved if there are no language issues. Regarding this language, can you recommend any linguists or experts who are not involved in your incubator project? Please send me an email with their affiliation, email address, and name; not here or public wiki pages. Thanks! --MF-W 09:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Email sent! Thanks Shahadusadik (talk) 23:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If Langcom approves this, please do take note of my comments at Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Mooré#Comments about the interwiki conflicting with a pseudo-namespace on the English Wikipedia. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 02:50, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I saw that. What will be the way forward? Should spark a discussion about this on telegram? Shahadusadik (talk) 21:57, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a problem for developers/sysadmins to solve. We (Langcom) will simply request the wiki to be created. Pseudo-namespaces have been "removed" in the past when they conflicted with a new language code. --MF-W 22:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None as popular as this one, though. Whatever. I'll make my case on Phabricator when the wiki actually is about to be approved. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 23:21, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Wikipedia Mandailing[edit]

Hello, I'm requesting approval for Wikipedia Mandailing. The project already has close to 2000 pages, and has been the past 7+ months. Thank you. ✒ Bennylin 11:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bennylin: Hi, Bennylin. There is something I would like to ask of you to facilitate the approval processes. Regarding this language, can you recommend any linguists or experts who are not involved in Mandailing incubator project? Please send me an email with their affiliation, email address, and name; not here or public wiki pages. --Sotiale (talk) 12:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what for? didn't you guys already contacted linguist or something for Wiktionary Mandailing's approval? This is not the first Wikimedia project in Mandailing ✒ Bennylin 13:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask someone first. He's considered an expert on Mandailing, and afaik he's not a contributor yet. What's the process to recommend someone? Do I send you an email or something? ✒ Bennylin 03:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bennylin: Ah, I was mistaken. I didn't remember if this wikt was approved first. Then there is no need for a separate recommendation process. --Sotiale (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So many things came at me at once that I mistook it for another project. I appreciate your efforts for finding the expert. --Sotiale (talk) 10:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Consider revoking the "verified as eligible" status for these two requests?[edit]

By reviewing their deletion requests, there are probably some good reasons that the eligibility of both requests are being contested, both are having scowiki-like faux articles before deleted, having fake grammars and cited with unreliable sources, of which some sources are from fraud sites. There are also off-wiki points that both eligibility status are granted by bribes, although I can't see if there are enough evidences to support. Based on the above situations, I'm afraid that both eligibilities shall be re-contested as both are re-controversial now. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:39, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"verified as eligible" means that the language is theoretically eligible to get a project if the test wiki is developed enough. It has nothing to do with the content of the test wiki. And at least for Ter Sami the bribery accusation is clearly bogus - looking at SJ81's edits and mails on the langcom list from around that time reveals they were going through all old requests and processing them. Votic is long enough ago that the records aren't publicly available, but I suspect its bogus too. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 04:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pppery Let @Yupik: tell you why that status is in wrong position:

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the language doesn't even have an orthography, so there is no possibility of contributing even if those two wanted to.

”

Ter Sami has only 2 L1 speakers as per Ethnologue's survey, and many Incubator contributors confirmed that Tamara Ustinova, one of the former "active contributors" of both projects, isn't one, but rather another pro-scowiki behavior maker. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 04:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't really matter if the eligibility is removed or not. I asked Yupik on that Incubator deletion request about maybe starting a Langcom discussion (for one of the languages), but she hasn't done so. With page creation on Incubator being prevented, the risk of a new Wikipedia with questionable content being created is zero. And what's this nonsense about "granted by bribes"? Do you really think my comment on the Votic request "The language is eligible; for the approval it will be necessary to prove that the content on Incubator is written in true Votic, of course." was bought? It seems like the cheque never arrived. I hope you can badger the bribers for me about it. --MF-W 09:37, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About approval of central Kanuri Wikipedia[edit]

It's been a while since we made a request on meta, we have been active since then, creating and editing articles we have answered questions about the varieties of the kanuri, but we are yet to get any proper response from the Langcom. so what's the future of the central Kanuri Wikipedia? MohammedBama123 (talk) 22:09, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MohammedBama123: Hi, I guess things haven't progressed while I've been away on a business trip for a while. I'll let you know about what's been going on so far. The main problem is your language code domain, which is a bit complicated because you are currently contributing from central kanuri but previously contributed from marcolanguage. In this regard, discussions were held in the direction of asking linguists or related experts about Kanuri. I was wondering if you could recommend a Kanuri expert or linguist, someone neutral who has never edited your project. In that case please send me an email. You can email me their affiliation, name, and email address(not here! here is public). This is selective but will facilitate quick decision making. --Sotiale (talk) 12:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sotiale Alright I will do that. MohammedBama123 (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for Chinook Jargon (chinuk wawa) Wikipedia[edit]

On the Chinook Jargon Wikipedia (incubator:Wp/chn) We have three active users, 216 articles that are overall bigger and beefier than the articles on most other incubating wikis (a little over a kilobyte on average). Chinook Jargon Wikipedia also has hundreds of edits per month, functional location map templates, a fancy main page, a partially translated interface, a user guide, a degree of quality control, and a fair amount of recognition on Facebook. Chinook Jargon Wikipedia was previously listed as an eligible test wiki, back in 2018.

A decently-sized community of people are trying to bring this 19th-century trade language of the Pacific Northwest back to life, and I'm here to do my part! (See the language's official MetaWiki request page.) POSSUM chowg (talk) 20:50, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@POSSUM chowg I'm afraid that your post isn't actual seriously, before March, you seems like one of the only two active users for just two months (the another is Jon Gua as I've checked) (fully inactive before this year, for about 2 years), also as per Ethnologue:

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No known L1 speakers in United States (Wurm et al 1996). A total of 1,000 L2 speakers in both Canada and the United States (Grant 2013). The last L1 speaker died in the mid-1970s. Total users in all countries: none known.

”

Do we have ideas why such language status can also get eligibile status? Maybe this issue above also affects this request? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 02:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I never knew that a wiki had to have at least three active users for a certain period of time. Yes, we have only had three active users for the past month, I had thought that that was enough...

So anyway, as a pidgin, even in its heyday back in the 1800's, there were very few L1 speakers... | See this discussion on the chinookjargon.com website, including a word or two from Haruo, the very first editor of CJ Wikipedia POSSUM chowg

(talk) 02:05, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Approval request for Czech Wikivoyage[edit]

Dear Language Committee, I'm requesting approval for Czech Wikivoyage. Czech Wikivoyage is the last missing Wikimedia project in the Czech language, so the Czech language and the Czech community is generally very active. In the past year, a stable active Wikivoyage community has formed. Now it is active every month. We kindly request your review of this project and hope that the Committee can approve it soon. LiMr (talk) 19:03, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for verification of Sylheti Wikibooks[edit]

Dear Language Committee members, requesting verification of Wb/syl (Sylheti Wikibooks). I believe there should be a basic verification process after each proposal. This would demonstrate Langcom’s acknowledgment of the proposal’s validity and provide an avenue for feedback. Unfortunately, there has been a lack of Langcom members performing these verification checks since User:StevenJ81. Additionally, a project has been featured in the Wikimedia Incubator for over six months, meeting both basic verification requirements and the criteria for its own domain. Out of numerous Wikibook projects, this is the sole active project here. I kindly request verification and initiation of a Langcom discussion for consideration of the project. --ꠢꠣꠍꠘ ꠞꠣꠎꠣ (talk) 01:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]