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Latest comment: 19 years ago by Jeronim in topic refresh interval

<B> in headers shold be removed[edit]

Many aggregators such as akregator don't support HTML in headlines. It's currently used for the words "FAST" and "AVAILABLE". I suggest removing the bold tags around these words.--Eloquence 06:01, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Ok i've made the change. The next time I compile (in a bit) it will go into effect --Alterego 07:36, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Link to page on Meta[edit]

I suggest adding a direct link to this page to the summaries.--Eloquence 10:35, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

that seems like it would be nice. i don't have permission to edit the page unfortunately --Alterego 23:51, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

various comments[edit]

MediaWiki project, not WikiMedia, on Sourceforge?

fixed --Alterego 20:38, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Use a better google check! It's closer to 1% of the Google corpus: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awikipedia.org&btnG=Google+Search turns up over 4M

that's the search I use. varies from 2.6 mil to 4.2 mil depending on datacenter --Alterego 20:38, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Check google for both WP pages, and pages of all known mirrors.
A similar search for Wikt: is at 500K, wikibooks/wikimedia/wikiquote at 150K each (on the other hand, searching for site:wikimediafoundation.org returnes 14k hits, so perhaps the searches don't work properly?)

The "new pages/recent edits" counts seem awfully low to me... where are they from?

low because I have been manually restarting it. it's just a subtraction from the last time it checked --Alterego 20:38, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Use a script to round the 5+-digit numbers to the nearest thousand; prettier and easier to read Nice work... +sj+ 13:32, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

i prefer exactness =) --Alterego 20:38, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

217720 registered users and 424, or 0.002% are administrators. You mean 0.2% :) Erik Zachte 01:49, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

lol =) some of my numbers are a little bit rough still. i added graphs though! it's a one stop shop --Alterego 02:27, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
The admin ratios are still off by an order of magnitude - it is 0.2%, not 0.02% - 64.151.172.26 04:01, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thanks --Alterego 05:23, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

currently the screen refreshes every 5 secs, if these stats becomes popular, and I assume they will, qwikly will soon need a couple of extra servers ;) what about one refresh per 1 or 5 minutes, easier on the eye too Erik Zachte 02:56, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

the charts still refresh every few seconds, however now without visible repaint (maybe my computer was overloaded earlier), it is very smooth now and nice to see the curves move Erik Zachte 02:33, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)
before I was using meta-refresh for the iframe the imaes were in (which was a load on the qwikly server), but now I am using javascript to quietly refresh them. I also did a little bit of url trickery to include the current time in the images. this bears absolutely no load on the server :) --Alterego 03:44, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
i should add, i was worried about it overloading zwinger but i have been watching his resources and he is fine (he is the one serving the images) --Alterego 03:49, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

are you sure about the total number of CPU's ? [1] lists 39 servers, 6 of them dual proc.

I see http://zwinger.wikimedia.org/ganglia/ lists that many CPU's too
It lists 67 total...not sure which to use. 39 is just apaches right? --Alterego 08:04, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I think the 60+ number must be accurate. It just went down to 65 so it is just a count of all CPUs on the grid --Alterego 19:05, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
39 is not just apaches, but all servers, see page [2] Hard to believe that page is out of date that much, and misses some 20 servers. The current figures are from January and Kate who manages orders made recent updates.
Ok thanks for researching it and I will make the changes when I get home --Alterego 18:48, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Terminology[edit]

Please allow for the following terms to describe the speed of the servers:

Dead | Glacial | Majestic | Pensive | Steady | Snappy | Instantaneous

+sj+

lol. well, i myself have no really good way of determining the speed of the servers. what i am doing now is getting the 'Speed' and 'Availability' from berlios.de. That data based on human perception (which is a good thing, imo). I am now also using the data behind the first pipe in the #Wikipedia topic, since it typically deals with the speed of the site --Alterego 01:16, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Opera 8.0[edit]

Doesn't work with Opera 8.0 (keeps downloading images but nothing every displays) unless you turn JS off. Very cool, though. 12.64.60.161 16:53, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I just installed and tested on Opera 8.0 build 7561 on WinXP SP2 and it works perfectly. If you could perhaps provide more information, such as your build, I could duplicate it. Thanks! --Alterego 02:35, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it's the same build, but on Win98SE. The page loads up and displays OK at first, but then a couple seconds later when the charts refresh, it keeps downloading the first four images, but it never displays them. The "daily traffic rank trend" is the only image that displays after the initial refresh. 12.64.24.85 15:06, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Also, I'm on a dialup. Maybe on a dialup, it takes longer to load the images than the refresh interval, so the browser never catches up? Just speculating. 12.64.6.96 16:10, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

That's a possibility. In the future I will add a sliding bar to control how often to update the graphs --Alterego 00:13, May 2, 2005 (UTC)

refresh interval[edit]

Could you increase the refresh interval for the ganglia graphs? Currently the HTML version loads each graph approximately once every 2 seconds, which is a pointless waste of bandwidth for an hourly graph. Also it's a waste of CPU cycles on zwinger -- those graphs are dynamically generated. -- Jeronim 22:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

It's not an hourly graph! There is a noticeable difference on every single reload. I have it in the works to include a slider that controls the speed but it's not out yet. --Alterego 01:27, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
I see the confusion with "hourly". Each graph shows one hour worth of data. That means every two seconds it knocks two seconds off the trailing edge and adds two seconds to the leading edge. --Alterego 01:28, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
The ganglia meta daemon only takes data samples every 15 seconds. Your page causes zwinger to regenerate each graph at 7.5 times that frequency for every single client. If someone leaves it running in a web browser for a day, zwinger will generate > 170,000 images for that single client. If your page suddenly becomes popular, zwinger will be generating many millions of graphs per day. Zwinger is a critical server for the cluster. Its average load is approaching 1. Do you have anything in place to prevent people from overloading zwinger via your page? -- Jeronim 06:42, 13 May 2005 (UTC)Reply
The page is not going to suddenly become popular before I add the slider. It gets a few hits per day and most people leave after about 20 seconds. I don't appreciate how you went from not understanding how it works to being snooty about it. If you read up you would see I myself was concerned about the load on zwinger. The fact of the matter is that it is only used by a few people each day at the moment and I have plans in the works. Thanks --Alterego 16:10, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
I lowered the refresh interval to seven seconds --Alterego 16:28, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

herokuapp[edit]

Some wikipulse found, thought that is probably different application. --10:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC), Utar (talk)